Labatt says: OK, we don't have a set agenda for the final session Labatt says: This is your turn to talk and our turn to listen Labatt says: As i mentioned before we broke off, these comments are being logged, so your record of your thoughts and experiences would be really useful Labatt says: Why don't I start this by asking Margareth to describe her reactions to this seminar Mtumpane says: I would have liked a clearer set of conventions for ordering the conversation - I found things sometimes got chaotic Dinah says: I enjoyed the experience as a newbie, but found the lack of threads to be a problem for learning purposes Warrenw says: i think i learned but if i may perhaps a window feature to keep my comments separate from all others would assit in dialogue Labatt says: or everyone :0 Margareth says: I've say I found it very interesting and I guess right now my reactions are mixed. Lindak says: i found it rather slow Margareth says: I think that I can see the one would develop a feeling of intimacy with other members in a class Mtumpane says: ditto to WarrenW' comment re a sperate window for your own dialogue as you are tytyping Warrenw says: i toofound it slow Taylor says: i thought it was intereseting Margareth says: but I also find the conversations somewhat chatoic Dinah says: I agree with Margareth - I felt personalities emerge Terry says: Re Windows I'm using a MOO client, that does provide some of those features. Peterg says: there seems to be a great opportunity for humour here that is lacking in other tools. The emotes are a great idea. Terry smiles broadly Margareth says: its sometimes like being in a conversation where I'm constantly interrupted. Paulm says: I feel the technology show potential and am looking forward to following it's progress to user friendly environment. Margareth says: It says to me that we are going to learn how to converse in a MAUD Labatt says: OK, let me toss out a statement & get your responses... Mtumpane says: I think the tool has real potential. if some of the obvious surface problems can be workrd out Margareth says: conversing in a MAUD means being patient and waiting for others to respond; keeping one conversation going at a time. Labatt says: It really seems to me that the future of distance education lies in some sort of similar technolog Labatt says: perhaps not a maud per se, but an online interactive facility like this Kathim says: I learned some useful information, got some firsthand experience, but it is too slow and I guess, sigh, unstructured for me. I told Terry earlier, we ran into a similar situation for a workshop session using videoconferencing. People seem to crave structure and I guess, efficiency. Labatt says: because of costs, and because virtual reality is an important componet Labatt says: what do you think? Mum says: Is there any chance that we could participate in a specific scenario like the euthansia debate? Taylor says: well, youc an use sa Taylor says: eek, i mean i think you're correct Taylor says: yeah there is, the start for that one is in kane's virtual office :) Labatt says: jeff, perhaps it might be worthwhile scheduling a tour of the interactive areas int he future, where we're not competing with seminars Dinah says: for some students, for some courses, some of the time Kane says: my turn Jo says: a specific debate could Peterg says: I think we need an aray of tools close at hand so that we can switch modes as needs arise. e.g. from cmc video to chat and so on. Mum says: how do we get to Kanes office? Kane says: re: slow: this is part of the dynamic today given that everyone is new here, soI know that I purposely went slower so that you wouldn't get overwhelmed. re: chaotic conversations. Yes this is an issue that can be worked out with some rule Lindak says: I would be interested in a tour in the future Kathim says: I would be interested in a tour as well. Kane says: for example, to keep side discussions, I use tell sometimes, e.g. to answer students personally without interrupting the flow of the says... Kane says: new people have a tendency to focus only on one means of communicating, hence the chaotic element Warrenw says: kane one thing on your tour , if you leave without saying your destination i get lost quickly Mtumpane says: there still needs to be some ordering of the main conversation, I think Sylvia says: Can short paragraphs of presentation be readied to upload or does each line need to be typed in as it appeared today? Kane says: in regards to my euthanasia case study, I will post directions on the Conference Main Board for you to access whenever you want Taylor says: how can you order a conversation though? Labatt says: We can easily do paragraphs of presentation, aslo, we can impose rules using the software. We chose not to do either because people aren't used to the environment yet. Margareth says: I think there seems to be a lot we don't know about using a MAUD Labatt says: It's hard to present the whole concept in two hours Margareth says: it appears as though it can be used much more efficiently than our experience today. Taylor says: practice, fortunately is fun Terry says: Sylvia, At Diversity University MOO they have a slide show capacity which allows text to be created and them displayed by the teacher, much like a PowerPoint type face-to-face presentation. Mtumpane says: In response to Taylor's question...you could have the moderator direct the order of questions/responses Labatt says: We have that as well, terry Labatt says: To get an idea of how much more structuring is possible, type: help moderate Taylor says: yeah, it is hard though because you don't want to lose anyone in th course of your talk... and if someone has a pressing question they need clarified it oculd be a problem if they can't ask it Labatt says: To get an idea of how we can present a lot of info at once, type: show log Kane says: of course, this real time interaction is just one element Jo says: be more useful sho log Jimz says: For distance learners, what are the major advantages of MAUD over something like Netscape chat? Labatt says: You could read the entire log of the plenary session by typing: show log all (caution, though, it's 17 pages long) Taylor says: the whole environment makes this far more engaging, and because the maud is all set up students could go through any particular module at any time they wanted Sylvia says: Thansay can Netscape chat be limited to eg a class? Taylor says: for example some may need to go through something 2 or 3 times or even more Taylor says: but with a simple chat set up they couldn't do that Labatt says: To achieve full interactivity you would need something like a MAUD which interfaces with netscape Labatt says: If such a system could be built, great, but it still seems to be a way off Labatt says: My difficulty working with Netscape has been to achieve full interactivity... most 'Netscape Chat' sites we see require that you refresh your screen to see what has been said recently -- this is really inefficient Sylvia says: Oh, you mean it will not be ready tomorrow, but check at the end of the week?:) Labatt says: I wish Kane says: a simple advantage is not everyone has access to Netscape. That aside, the MAUD creates an environment to go to, to meet, to use a variety of systems, chat doesnt do that Labatt says: Give me a few months and a full development environment Labatt says: Well, I think we're winding down, so perhaps we should call it a day Labatt says: We will keep the maudl list running, and the web site running, and of course the maud will be here Kane says: and also point out that we can continue these discussions on the BBS or MAUDL Labatt says: Full transcripts will be available both here and on the web site Margareth says: Many thanks to Labatt, Kane and Terry (and all the behind the scenes people for making this possible. Mtumpane says: how much longer will our ID's here be active? Sylvia says: THanks I found this most informative and can see that there are some definite advantages to othyer modes. I will watch for advanced in maud environments! Labatt says: We hope that if you have comments or questions in the next few day that you'll use weeither the maudl list server or the board here in the maud to pose them Taylor says: a real long time Labatt says: Your IDs here will be active indefinitely Terry says: Thanks for coming all - a great learning expereince!! Labatt says: So please feel free to log on any time Mtumpane says: Many thanks to all of you! Labatt says: yes -- we of the maud learned a lot by doing this -- thank you Margareth says: by everyone Mtumpane says: BFN Logging has been disabled. MENU | SEMINARS