See, this is why I don't like federations very much - they exhibit more group behaviour, and less network behaviour. In particular, in the first instance, by delineating just exactly who can join - and more importantly, who can't. And so we get conseqences like: "if you choose to outsource your identity provision then you are not a 'full member' of the federation, whatever that means." More on 'third party suppliers of federated access management' and in particular OpenAthens.
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