David Ross and John Larmer converse about learning and games before and after a video on the subject from James Paul Gee (the video is embedded in the article; well done). "John: What surprised me, and I think many of the people who attended, was that James' message was not 'video games can be used to teach science, history, math, etc.' but 'education should be more like a well-designed video game.'" Right.
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